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The advantage of the C3 is that you do have some gain on the 12 and 17 meter bands whereas the C19XR does not do those bands. Only practical difference in performance is in the area of f/b, but depending on your operating proclivities the better f/b may or may not be desirable. Mechanically the C19XR follows our "XR" standard of 100 mph elements and a 120 mph boom. However the C3ED is rated the same way. If needed, you can add a 40 meter element to the C3E but certainly not the C19XR. I have both in use here at my QTH, but comparing the two is not possible as my C3E's are stacked and always used as a stack so I can't use one only to do A/B tests. 73 Natan W6XR Force 12 East Ithaca, NY FN12sk force12@qth.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <dj2001@isd.net> To: <K7QZ@aol.com>; <Force12Talk@qth.com> Sent: Monday, July 10, 2000 5:03 AM Subject: [Force 12 Talk] Re: C3 vs C19XR > > I hope you dont mind me asking but I've been thinking of going with > the C3E/D, however the C19 as you say is about the same size as the > C3 with a little better numbers however it is 58 lbs with a quite a > bit larger wind load. I'm using a Tri-ex W51, its about 20 years old > now and I wonder if the C19 would be a bit heavy for it. Also the > rotator I'm using is a Ham IV, I have only a UHF/VHF dual band > vertical on the tower. My HF antenna on the tower now which would be > replaced by the C3 or C19 is a Telrex TB-5, (about the same size as > the C19). Is the performance difference between the C19 and the > C3E/D that great, should I still consider the C19 or am I better of > with the C3, which is nice and light compaired with what I have now. > I am also considering the cost of the two antennas, the C19 already > comes with a 100 mph rating where the C3 it must be added with the D > option. My intuition says get the C19 because of better F/B but my > practical side says get the C3E/D because its lighter, less wind > load, covers extra bands, and if I'm reading the specs correctly the > performance of the C3 is not that much less than the C19, would I > see/hear the difference? > > Dale J. > K9VUJ > > > > > At 20:12 -0400 07/09/2000, K7QZ@aol.com wrote: > >Hi Len: > > > >Read your post on the Force 12 list serve. Just wanted to add an additional > >thought for you. As you know, the C3 has performance on 12 and 17 m (with a > >tuner of course) whereas the C19XR is a dedicated tribander. The antennas > >are about the same size, so it may come down to whether or not you have > >interest in working the warc bands. The C4E might be an option also, this > >ant gives you 10, 12, 15, 17, 20 and 40 m on one boom- C4E gain on 10 m is a > >little better than the C3 because of the additional 10 m element. I went > >with a C4E because my neighborhood would not let me stack a 40 m beam above a > >C3 or C19XR. Lastly, I have used an A4 and the F12 (in my opinion) is a more > >consistent and better performer. > > > >Hope this helps! > > > >73 de Mike K7QZ > > > ><<Hello I want to replace a Cushcraft A4 with the C3 or the C19XR > >was wondering if the C3 has that much more gain over the A4 also would > >the C19XR be worth it over the C3? > > > >Thanks for reading and any info. > > > >Len WA7ZXZ>> > > > > > >-------------------------------------------- > >Force12Talk mailing list provided as a service by Force 12 Antennas, Inc. > >Force 12 Web site: http://www.qth.com/force12 > > > >Submissions: send to Force12Talk@qth.com > >To unsubscribe: send a blank e-mail to Force12Talk-leave@qth.com > >Force12Talk Message Archive: http://www.qth.com/force12/list/force12talk > >For problems with the list, contact force12@qth.com > > > > -------------------------------------------- > Force12Talk mailing list provided as a service by Force 12 Antennas, Inc. > Force 12 Web site: http://www.qth.com/force12 > > Submissions: send to Force12Talk@qth.com > To unsubscribe: send a blank e-mail to Force12Talk-leave@qth.com > Force12Talk Message Archive: http://www.qth.com/force12/list/force12talk > For problems with the list, contact force12@qth.com > > > -------------------------------------------- Force12Talk mailing list provided as a service by Force 12 Antennas, Inc. Force 12 Web site: http://www.qth.com/force12 Submissions: send to Force12Talk@qth.com To unsubscribe: send a blank e-mail to Force12Talk-leave@qth.com Force12Talk Message Archive: http://www.qth.com/force12/list/force12talk For problems with the list, contact force12@qth.com |