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Subject: C31XRs in SO2R ???
Author: Bob Henderson <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
Date: 29-Jul-2002 05:38:04
Tommy

I'm sorry, I thought I had answered your question in my attached mail.

With 3 feeders you can transmit on all three of the interlaced yagis of the
C31XR at the same time. That's the easy bit. What is more of a challenge
is to transmit legal power on any one or even two and listen without
debilitating interference on the third. My mail explains that you can do
that too. BTW In SO2R you only ever have one transmit signal.

The above answer is not theoretical I am doing it here. BTW I would be
interested to know at what heights you're planning to have your three stack.
I am thinking of around 30ft, 60ft & 90ft for mine with a Magnum 340N at
120ft. I'd be interested to know your plans.

73

Bob 5B4AGN, P3F, ZC4ZM


----- Original Message -----
From: "WD4K" <WD4K_1@Bellsouth.net>
To: <Force12Talk@qth.com>
Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 2:54 AM
Subject: RE: [Force 12 Talk] Re: C31XRs in SO2R ???


> I have been using the C31 for five years. I have had a two stack for over
2
> years and my three stack of them is going up now. I have done some
homework,
> however, when I was doing all of my inquires about the C31 multifeed
> capability, I never ever received a definitive answer to the basic
question.
> It always got lost somewhere when the discussions took a sideroad to
another
> topic, although usually related and interesting but yielding no distinct
> answer. So, still at large is the answer to the question: Does anyone
have
> any experience in a multi or SO2R setup, utilizing the individual feedline
> capability, in transmitting legal power on two bands at the same time on
one
> C31XR??
> Tommy WD4K
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Henderson [mailto:bob@cytanet.com.cy]
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: Force12Talk@qth.com
> Subject: [Force 12 Talk] Re: C31XRs in SO2R ???
>
>
> For clarification...........I am able to listen on any one of the three
> bands covered by the C31XR while transmitting high power on any other one.
> With the Dunestars in circuit apart from direct harmonic interference I
only
> have some modulation of the noise floor to tolerate. Listening on one band
> while transmitting on another (both with the C31XR) works pretty well.
Not
> perfect but well.
>
> Having satisfied myself that the C31 works usefully in SO2R with 3
feeders,
> I now plan to stack three of them fed with 3 feeders and 3 Stack Matches
on
> 120ft of rotating tower and with a Magnum 340N at the top. I then plan to
> put my TH11 on the present tower for use as a mult antenna and to get me
> back on the WARC bands. I will leave the XM240 above the TH11 and at
right
> angles to it. My overall plan is to achieve a good level of M/S & M/2
> functionality here. I don't have the real estate to warrant spending any
> time thinking seriously about M/M.
>
> Incidentally, my Six Pack is in the shack. I chose to bring all of my
coax
> cables directly into the shack and do my switching there. I felt that
would
> give me maximum flexibility. I have stubs connected across my 160/80 and
> 40m antennas on the antenna side of the SixPack. In each case the stubs
are
> only 6ft of cable away from the amp output sockets. A stub on the 20m
feed
> to the C31XR would be a help on 10m but there is a complication. If I
> attach a stub directly across the 20m feed from the SixPack then my SWR on
> 15m is badly affected. I spoke to Tom Schiller about this but he seemed
> convinced I was mistaken! I'm not and with 100W power levels I have
> satisfied myself that the problem can be resolved adequately by putting a
> 20m bandpass filter on the antenna side of the stub. I haven't done this
> yet as I need a high power 20m bandpass filter. I will probably have to
> make one.
>
> The C31XR is a great antenna and I'm betting a stack of three will be even
> better.
>
> 73
>
> Bob 5B4AGN, P3F, ZC4ZM
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Henderson" <bob@cytanet.com.cy>
> To: "Jack Brabham KZ5A" <kz5a@mindspring.com>; <Force12Talk@qth.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 7:11 AM
> Subject: Re: [Force 12 Talk] C31XRs in SO2R ???
>
>
> > Jack
> >
> > I am using that configuration here but with Dunestar filters. Works
> pretty
> > well. The W3NQN filter set is reputed to have better out of band
> rejection
> > than the Dunestars so they should work just fine. You'll need to set
> things
> > up so your band pass filters can't drop out of circuit though. If they
do
> > then its very easy to toast the front end of your second radio! Trust
me,
> > I'm writing from experience on this!
> >
> > My current set-up is 2 x FT1000MP, Alpha 87A, Acom 1000, Array solutions
> > SO2R box, Six Pack, 2 x Dunestar, C31XR at 70ft, XM240 at 85ft (Rt
angles
> to
> > C31XR), Inverted Vees at 70ft for 160/80. All ants on one tower. The
Six
> > Pack and Dunestars are now controlled using home built band decoders
> driven
> > from the band data output on the FT1000MPs. Manual switching is fine
but
> > only whilst you are wide awake.
> >
> > Good luck
> >
> > Bob 5B4AGN, P3F, ZC4ZM
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jack Brabham KZ5A" <kz5a@mindspring.com>
> > To: <force12talk@qth.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, July 28, 2002 5:00 AM
> > Subject: [Force 12 Talk] C31XRs in SO2R ???
> >
> >
> > > All,
> > >
> > > I am considering re-wiring my pair of C31XRs to the individual band
> > feedline
> > > arrangement to facilitate SO2R contest operation. The present plan
> would
> > > be to use the W3NQN filters with a WX0B switching setup.
> > >
> > > My concern is that the close proximity of the driven elements might be
> > more
> > > than the filters could deal with effectively. Has anyone out there
> tried
> > > this or a similar arrangement?
> > >
> > > I would appreciate hearing about anyone's experiences, good or bad,
> with
> > > C31XRs in this sort of setup.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > > 73
> > >
> > > Jack Brabham - KZ5A
> > > 2013 Alyssa Court
> > > Azle, TX 76020
> > >
> > >
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