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Subject: C3 Rivets
Author: Dale L Martin <kg5u@hal-pc.org>
Date: 11-Sep-2002 09:05:42

From the Force 12 Catalog (1999 Product Line), page 5:

"The rivets used by Force 12 are from the aircraft industry and are called
'closed end' rivets, since they are solid aluminum, with no hole. They are
designed specifically for applications with vibration."

From N6BT's writeup on TowerTalk reflector in 1997,
http://lists.contesting.com/_towertalk/1997-March/003911.html:

.....
The most common variety of blind rivet is found at the local hardware store.
These are a "regular" type construction. This means that the mandrel (the
shaft that is pulled by the tool) goes through the rivet body and is
attached to a ball at the far end of the rivet body. This is the end
inserted into the hole. When the tool is used, the mandrel is pulled
outward, pulling the ball along with it. This ball will mash the part of the
rivet body that is inside the hole (inside the tubing) up against the inside
wall of the tubing. It will continue to do so until the pulling force is
sufficient to dislodge the mandrel from the rivet body. Different mandrel
designs will pull the ball into the body and leave the ball filling the
hole; another is a pull-through, leaving a clean hole; another will leave a
portion inside the body to increase shear strength; another will flare the
material; another will fully core and spread out a lage portion of the inner
surface. The ones usually found are the type that separate from the ball and
leave the ball mashed up inside the rivet body. Sometimes, the ball
will fall out and rattle around inside an element, so be sure you tilt an
element to clean it before putting it up! Please note that the ball material
can be important. If it remains inside the rivet, it is most likely
participating in the joint. For elements, if the ball falls out, or rusts
away, the joint is probably still intact, as the material has been seated
firmly into the hole during assembly.

Another type of blind rivet is called a "closed end" rivet. This is what
Force 12 uses. They are designed specifically for connections where
vibration is a primary concern.

The closed end rivet has a hole only going part way into the body. The
mandrel is attached to the outside (top - towards the rivet head) of this
material. After the rivet is inserted into the tubing, the mandrel is
pulled. As the pressure increases, the material completely fills the hole,
plus pulling tight against the inside of the tubing. When sufficient force
has been applied, the mandrel pulls apart from the body. This leaves a solid
"hole" and the mandrel is completely removed from the body. The connection
has high shear strength and might even be watertight.
....

73,
dale, kg5u


> -----Original Message-----
> From: WA2BPE [mailto:wa2bpe@infoblvd.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 08:49
> To: Dale L Martin
> Cc: TowerTalk Reflector; Force 12 Reflector
> Subject: Re: [Towertalk] C3 Rivets
>
>
> I do not have much acquaintance with the Force 12 products, but
> am wondering if the pop rivits shipped
> with a new beam are the closed end (sealed) type. This could
> explain *some* of the cost differential.
> Anyone know for sure??
>
> Tom - WA2BPE
>



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