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something that is more constructive!! -=- Pat Connell -----Original Message----- From: Alan C. Zack [mailto:k6acz@earthlink.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:41 PM To: force12talk@qth.com Subject: Re: [Force 12 Talk] Enough is Enough !!! Jerry, I am only responding to emails directed to me. I have not posted anything new for some time. There is a delete key on your keyboard if my emails offend you. For your information I am getting many, many emails in support of my position. They are private emails to me and not to the reflector, and I respect their right to privacy and so that they will not be harassed by people like you. Jerry Plemmons wrote: > > Geez. Will this never end? > Give us all a break and QRT, Alan, PLEASE. Enough is enough. > > Jerry, K6JRY > Wickford, Rhode Island > ====================================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan C. Zack" <k6acz@earthlink.net> > To: <Force12Talk@qth.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 3:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Force 12 Talk] F12 Customer Service -- my experience > > > I respect all of your opinions and experiences. I like the idea of > > having a local source that I could drive to and pick up an item if > > need be. Also that F12 has a vast product line. However, with > > their customer service record with me I would not do business with > > Tom again. I suspect Tom was well aware of my problem but had > > bigger fish to fry and my little problem always got shifted to the > > bottom of the pile of things to do. Maybe Tom should learn to > > delegate the more mundane stuff that needs to be done. He could > > hand my emails to a GOFER and tell him to give me a call and find > > out what I need and send it to me. Instead Tom makes all the > > conventions and tries to handle all the problems on his own. I > > don't know if a business owner can be successful trying to > > micro-manage like that. As an example, I was a USCG Aviation Maint > > Officer with up 200 aircraft mechanics and technicians working for > > me, maintaining C-130's and Dauphin helicopters. I certainly could > > not micro-manage every little detail of the aircraft maintenance and > > availability. I had a number of very capable shop chiefs (CPO's) > > who I trusted to take care of the details. I only got involved if > > they hit upon some stumbling block or were getting static from > > Flight Operations to get a plane ready before they could complete > > their work safely. After my retirement from the Coast Guard I was > > employed as a procurement quality engineer for Boeing and have vast > > experience dealing with vendors and sub contractors. I controlled > > vendors who supplied electronics parts and assemblies for use on the > > Delta Rocket guidance systems and the Intl Space station. Had Tom > > shipped an assembly to Boeing and one of my inspectors found a piece > > missing he would not be paid until he corrected the problem. If he > > did not complete a corrective action report on steps he took to > > prevent a reoccurrence he would be barred from doing business with > > Boeing. I am only mentioning this as to not be pegged as some wacko > > who knows nothing about how a business should be run as I DO have > > experience in these matters. I am not saying that as Ham's, we > > should be that strict to F12, but they do have a responsibility to > > keep customers happy. As one poster so very well stated, First > > Rule, The customer is always right. I agree, and in my experience > > can add two more, the Commanding Officer is always right, and the > > Production Line Manager is always right when it concerns his parts! > > Good Luck to the rest of you in your dealings with F12. > > > > Larry Weaver wrote: > > > > > > At 12:58 PM 7/1/2003, Tom Cox wrote: > > > >As F12 customers go, I am a piker -- I bought two yagis, an EF > > > >902 and > an > > > >EF706. However, the parts were all there, marked correctly, and > > > >everything fit and matched up as specified. Questions I had > > > >regarding stacking spacing were answered within hours by e-mail. > > > >I deal with the whole range of customer service quality with > > > >vendors in my IT > management > > > >job, and F12 is better than most of those. I would buy from them > > > >again. > > > > > > The discussion reminds me of online product reviews where > > > typically 10 people give the product 5 stars and 1 gives it one > > > star. No amount of discussion will change Alan's or anyone else's > > > perception. Since none of > us > > > were there, all we have is the individuals' perceptions. The > > > customer's perception is, of course, important. > > > > > > I, for one, have had excellent service from Force 12 in my 5 > purchases--one > > > on a tight schedule for a DXpedition. I also picked up a Sigma 5 > > > at the factory on a Friday during a vacation trip and later > > > discovered the > manual > > > was missing. Nathan E-mailed me a copy on Sunday. > > > > > > 73....Larry N6TW > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > > Force12Talk mailing list provided as a service by Force 12 > > > Antennas, > Inc. > > > Force12 Web Site: http://www.force12inc.com > > > > > > To Submit Message to the List: Force12Talk@qth.com > > > To unsubscribe and view the Message Archive: see > http://qth.com/force12/list > > > For problems with the list: contact n4zr@qth.com > > > > -- > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > Alan Zack > > Amateur Radio Station K6ACZ > > Anaheim, Southern California, USA > > Quality Engineer, The Boeing Company, Retired > > Aviation Chief Warrant Officer, U.S. Coast Guard, Retired > > U.S. Coast Guard, Always Ready, Always There > > Every hour, Every day, Around the Clock and Around the World > > SEMPER PARATUS > > > > > > -------------------------------------------- > > Force12Talk mailing list provided as a service by Force 12 Antennas, > > Inc. 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